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How to build a geiger counter with USB interface

Written by Administrator, on 20-09-2008 11:36
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This page describe how to build radiation detector and how to interface it with a USB capable microcontroler to connect a PC.

How to build the Geiger counter

The geiger counter is a pretty simple device to detect radiations. Many forms of radiations from radio elements (alpha, beta, gamma) can be detected but it is more sensitive to beta and gamma radiations. The Geiger-Muller tube is a simple device, it's a tube filled with a gas with two electrodes. A high potential is applied betweens electrodes. When a ionizing particle arrived, it create a temporary conductive path between electrodes. The resulting current can be detected by an electronic amplifier.

A Geiger counter is composed  of a high voltage generator, a geiger tube, an amplifier and a monostable. The following schematic show clearly these 4 parts. In the second part of this article will show how to connect this counter to a USB microcontroler and a computer.

 

geiger1.png

Click here for high resolution schematic 

 The high voltage generator

****WARNING**** High voltage is dangerous, you have to be very very careful during your experimentation. Never touch any part of the circuit.****WARNING**** 

 

  The generator is composed of a 50Hz oscillator with a classical NE555 circuit, a transformer, a voltage multiplier and a voltage regulator. When the potential is too high, the regulator stop oscillations in the oscillator. The voltage is also limited by zener diodes at 550V.The transformer is a classical 9V/220V but we use the primary to produce a medium voltage before the voltage multiplier.It's possible to use a high impedence voltmeter to control the tension or a "tension tester screedriver" after the transformer.

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****WARNING**** High voltage are dangerous, you have to be very very careful during your experimentation. Never touch any part of the circuit.

Always turn off the power before to manipulate the circuit. Be careful even with power turned off, a high potential can be present in condensers C4/C5   

The Geiger tube

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The tube can be found for few Euros /dollars  on ebay. Many kind of tubes can be used, but the voltage should be adjusted to the characteristic of the tube. Usually 550-600V is used. The current in the tube is limitate by a 10MOhm resistor, but it's better to use 2*4.7MOhm in serial or a resistor certified for high  voltage.

Be careful, the  high voltage is connected to the tube. Never touch it.

The amplifier and monostable

   A simple transistor is used to amplify  the signal from the tube. Then the emitter of the transistor is connected to a 555 circuit in monostable configuration. A very short impulsion will be enough to start the monostable. The exit of the 555 is connected to a buzer to produce the traditional sound 'tac tac' of a geiger counter. The exit can also be connected to leds or an optocoupler to connect the entry of a microcontroler.

 

Remember !!! Any part of the circuit before the  optocoupler can be dangerous - never touch it!

Microcontroler connexion

The output of the optocoupler can be connected to a microcontroleur with USB capability. The USB experimentation board describe on this site is perfectly suitable. Here is a picture of my experimentation circuit. The USB card is connected to the computer.

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Now you can modify the firmware of the USB to send data any time the counter send an impulsion. It's possible to measure time between two impulsions directly with the pic or with the computer program.

You can modify the user.c program used in the USB tutorial to check the status of the connected pin of the microcontroler

if(mUSBUSARTIsTxTrfReady())
{
while( PORTCbits.RC2);
	mUSBUSARTTxRam("Impulsion"); 
start_up_state=0;
}

 

Then in the computer, you can calculate the average time between impulsions  or to graph data to eventuality detect some anomaly. 

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Posted by Earl, on 07-11-2008 20:53, IP 209.203.83.211
1. Senior Elect. Tech
why not use the pic to generate and measure the high voltage generator signal? Just put a output from the pic to the mosfet and use an analog input to measure the voltage.
 
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Posted by Zbigniew, on 10-11-2008 06:51, IP 76.232.145.29
2. student
there is some missing values for components
 
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Posted by ElectroTech, on 09-01-2009 05:56, IP 70.160.237.187
3. Bad schematic dude
Missing values, at least one ground not specified (for example, best guess is between R7/D4?) - Built as specified the op amp for the regulator could cook as soon as the tube fires the first time, all the while never having a good reference for zero to do the regulating.  
 
Personal rule of thumb - Especially if you're still in breadboard phase - If you draw the schemo from the breadboard, double check it, then re-assemble the 'working' schemo back from the drawing to make sure you got everything before you post it. Not everyone can catch a missing ground for example, and something dealing with HV, people can get hurt!
 
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Posted by Pedro, on 29-04-2009 07:49, IP 75.62.150.227
4. There is no missing ground
There is no missing ground connection at R7 / D4. As the HV builds, the diode string begins to conduct through R6 and R7. The filtered value across C6 is compared to the voltage at the junction of R8 and R9 by IC8 and is used as a control signal to turn off the HV oscillator, IC1. 
 
Not having a DC path from the gate of Q1 to ground and the base of Q2 to ground means that the bias of those devices is dependent entirely on leakage currents.
 
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